tmccormi wrote on Friday, May 13, 2011:
Fab!
-Tony
aethelwulffe wrote on Friday, May 13, 2011:
Let’s see…FL to OR by mail, one weekday there, no delivery on Saturday anyway, it should still likely hit you by Monday evening or Tuesday morning. You can RUSH to the bank, deposit it, have the funds by 2:00PM on Wednesday, buy the guide (after shitting the rest of the cash) and then we only will have to wait 6-8 weeks for delivery.
If we don’t get this thing in distributable pdf, I say scan it, turn it into a Kindle E-book, and put it on the Guetenburg project.
tmccormi wrote on Friday, May 13, 2011:
I’m hoping for credit + website + download …. 
but it’s to government, well see.
-Tony
cornfeed wrote on Friday, May 13, 2011:
i have contacted every person i can think of and used every google search i could think of to find an implementation guide, nothing. that $530 price tag is absurd. i am more than willing to donate some money for the purachasing of a copy.
I am also interested in what everyone’s thoughts on the X12 837I standard also? I have an office that will be needing to bill Institutional claims…
p.s. discussion/collaboration is welcome in IRC on irc.freenode.net #openemr.
sunsetsystems wrote on Friday, May 13, 2011:
Yes it’s absurd.
Institutional support would be good, but there’s more to it than the X12 part. The claims will need additional information that OpenEMR currently does not collect. Would be very nice to have some funding for that.
tmccormi wrote on Tuesday, May 24, 2011:
OK, I have the money, I have the means (debit card) and I ready to make the purchase… but they have a lot of options. Exactly what should I be buying? http://store.x12.org/ Rod? Art?
-Tony
sunsetsystems wrote on Tuesday, May 24, 2011:
I think what we want is the Consolidated 837-P Implementation Guide, at http://store.x12.org/healthcare/5010/cg/ and described as:
CONSOLIDATED IMPLEMENTATION GUIDES
5010 | 837-P Health Care Claim: Professional
Format: PDF Download
$525.00 / single user license
There are alternatively “Original 005010 documents with separate errata” but I can’t think of any reason to know separately what the errata are, and it’s handy to look in only one place for information about a given item.
Does this look right to you guys?
sunsetsystems wrote on Tuesday, May 24, 2011:
Oh and I suggest calling to see if they have any discounts for nonprofits or open source projects.
tmccormi wrote on Tuesday, May 24, 2011:
The only ‘discount’ I can find is if you are an X12 Ansi member, which costs $3000/yr for non-profits. Then you get a 70% discount off the materials… But I will call and ask anyway.
-Tony
aethelwulffe wrote on Wednesday, May 25, 2011:
How about this?
http://starfrontiers.org/khvcode/openemr/congressman.pdf
Do we wanna cough up the cash, or see if anything gets shaken out of a tree by this?
sunsetsystems wrote on Wednesday, May 25, 2011:
Very cool, Art! I’d love to see what you sent them. Maybe OEMR.org could do some similar congressional letter-writing.
Anyway I can wait a little bit but it will probably end up being more expedient to hope for a refund and/or the entire standards set later.
aethelwulffe wrote on Wednesday, May 25, 2011:
http://starfrontiers.org/khvcode/openemr/privacyreleaseform_Art Eaton.pdf
This is the official version. The site e-mail interface form where I first started whining was not saved by myself and used…more colorful…descriptions and anecdotes.
aethelwulffe wrote on Wednesday, May 25, 2011:
Let’s hope that we get some consideration for 837i perhaps. 221 days until 5010 implementation.
I think a lot more whining is in order. Do any of you have useful and sympathetic (i.e. non GOP) representatives that you can write to? I promise you, anything you may say in this vein to GOP will be either ignored (best possibility) or utilized as ammunition. I have been scrying out the relevant issues around this, their position relative to the body politic, and case studies of usage of constituent rallying points to further dogmatic policy. It is best to be very careful who you whine to, and in the current political climate almost anything can be warped to an ingenious new use, or dismissed out of hand as suites the duly appointed representatives of our corporate lords and masters.
No, I’m really not trying to be funny. This Bill Young,is almost a total piece of shit. He is in my district however.
My Senator (more sympathetic to this sort of thing) is not likely to be able to do anything about this. Bill Young is not likely to help without somehow twisting the nature of the request. I expect to only get back something along the lines of useless information and/or a blame package full of ad-homonym attacks against the progressive side. If others care to do some lobbying, and they do not live in a third-world annex of Redneckia, please do so.
juggernautsei wrote on Friday, June 17, 2011:
Rod/Toni,
How much in sponsorship is needed to make this happen?
I will ask my people for the money.
Sherwin
tmccormi wrote on Friday, June 17, 2011:
Art clinic has funded the purchase of the 5010 guides, I bet Rod would be the best person to work in any changes needed for the X12 generation using that code. I will make the actual purchase of the guide no later than next week.
-Tony
OEMR Secretary (who now has a debit card for the account)
aethelwulffe wrote on Friday, June 17, 2011:
And as a side note, where are we at aquiring the standards?
aethelwulffe wrote on Friday, June 17, 2011:
Oops…had my browser window open for a few hours before I posted…
Good to hear we are on track, and the Treasurer now has a key to the strong-box!
I really think we can make some great improvements when re-writing for 5010. From the companion guides, most of it does not look too horribly different from the old, but I sincerely hope we can get some better configurability into the base code with this.
sunsetsystems wrote on Friday, June 17, 2011:
I’ve been out of town for a couple of weeks, just got back.
I’ll be ready to start on this very soon, so Tony when you can, please go ahead and get that document for me.
Sherwin, I have one very cool client willing to sponsor the effort and if your guys can do some cost-sharing so they are not stuck with the whole thing, that would be really appreciated! Feel free to email me.
weesnerkim wrote on Tuesday, June 21, 2011:
I have been working on the 5010 module and on National testing day last week I submitted and passed a 5010 test run. This was done to satisfy a clients request and I have received a large number of office installations in return. It is my desire to get this code into OpenEMR for everyone to have as rapidly as possible. I am new to all this and could use some help getting up to speed. I have 25+ years experience programming and want to help.