Weekly Conference Call

system · January 25, 2014, 11:01pm

bradymiller wrote on Saturday, January 25, 2014:

Hi,

For the 1/25/14 conference call today (note these are not official notes; just going from memory):

Attendees: myself, Jack, Julie(EMRDirect), Jan, Jit(Ace Health Solutions)

Jan discussed the Demographics MU2 item, which is nearing completion:
http://www.open-emr.org/wiki/index.php/Demographics_(MU2)

Jit requested which MU2 items would be helpful to work on first. We decided it would be very useful to provide a estimate of resources required for items that are still looking for an owner to help developers/vendors allocate their resources. I added this information to the Meaningful use 2 wiki page:
http://www.open-emr.org/wiki/index.php/OpenEMR_Certification_Stage_II_Meaningful_Use#Certification_Criteria

We discussed the importance of integrating the rxnorm database into OpenEMR in addition to improving the integration between the medication and prescription modules. I discussed that I did work previously on this, but was no longer able to. Jit’s group is interested in possibly picking up this project, which also is likely necessary for OpenEMR to get MU2 Medication List(a6) and Medication Allergy List(a7) items fulfilled. The details on this orphaned project can be found here: http://www.open-emr.org/wiki/index.php/Active_Projects#Integrate_RXNorm

We discussed the intricacies of the ACL engine, especially in setting up appropriate access controls in a shared host environment. Also discussed mechanism to add new aco’s in the codebase:
http://www.open-emr.org/wiki/index.php/PhpGacl
Some additional useful background information for using acl’s is also here:
http://www.open-emr.org/wiki/index.php/Access_Controls_Listing

We discussed code types, focusing on bringing in new external code types, which is discussed here(see External section):
http://www.open-emr.org/wiki/index.php/Code_Types#Configure.2FAdd_Code_Types

Quickly discussed Zend and that the ccda/Care Coordination module (which will cover many Mu2 items) will be submitted by Z&H for review soon.

Quickly discussed funding. Tony was not there to give how much we got. Recently have been aggressive placing the request at top of www.open-emr.org website, placing requests in the facebook etc. pipeline, and sending an email to all the vendors/developers on the professional support page.

Here’s the MU2 barometer(still a huge amount of work to do):
http://www.open-emr.org/wiki/index.php/OpenEMR_Certification_Stage_II_Meaningful_Use#Completion_Barometer

-brady
OpenEMR

system · January 27, 2014, 10:06pm

tmccormi wrote on Monday, January 27, 2014:

Added 1,632.50 since last report (paypal donations), we are up to $20,000 now. Comfortable for testing process if we only have to do it once. $25,000 gives us the ability to do modular and then full if needed.
–Tony

system · February 1, 2014, 4:38am

bradymiller wrote on Saturday, February 01, 2014:

Hi Everybody,

This is a reminder of the next conference call this Saturday (tomorrow) at 11:00 am PST. More details on the call (ie. number to call etc.) can be found here:
http://www.open-emr.org/wiki/index.php/OpenEMR_Weekly_Conference_Call_Details

Agenda is wide open. It’s one month into 2014 and still a large amount of things to do for MU2.

-brady
OpenEMR

system · February 8, 2014, 2:40am

bradymiller wrote on Saturday, February 08, 2014:

Hi Everybody,

This is a reminder of the next conference call this Saturday (tomorrow) at 11:00 am PST. More details on the call (ie. number to call etc.) can be found here:
http://www.open-emr.org/wiki/index.php/OpenEMR_Weekly_Conference_Call_Details

Agenda is wide open. It’s two months into 2014 and still a large amount of things to do for MU2!

-brady
OpenEMR

system · February 9, 2014, 12:03pm

bradymiller wrote on Sunday, February 09, 2014:

Hi,

For the 2/8/14 conference call (note these are not official notes; just going from memory):

Attendees: myself(Brady), Alfonso, Jack, Jan, JR, Lou, Pria, Tony

Jan discussed the Demographics MU2 item, which is nearing completion:
http://www.open-emr.org/wiki/index.php/Demographics_(MU2)

Jan also discussed the Vital signs, body mass index, and growth charts MU2 item:
http://www.open-emr.org/wiki/index.php/Vital_signs,_body_mass_index,_and_growth_charts_(MU2)
Note this item was reviewed and committed to the codebase after the meeting. Congratulations Jan on knocking out one more MU2 item!!!

Tony discussed MU2 contributions with updated information here:
http://www.open-emr.org/wiki/index.php/OpenEMR_Certification_Stage_II_Meaningful_Use#Fund_Raising
There is currently enough money to pay for the testing. Now we need to push hard to get money for development costs. Donate requests have been placed on the main website, the main wiki pages, I have sent emails to all vendors on the Professional Support Page, Dr. Lee has sent over 75 emails to specific users, and requests have been mode through all OpenEMR social media outlets.

Tony and myself discussed the Zend stuff by Z&H. I think their module loader code is ready to go, but waiting on Z&H’s Care Coordination Module, which is planning to hit on many of the MU2 items. Goal is to focus on their code and not on the argument of whether the Zend library itself should be embedded, since this decision can be made after the community decides to use Zend. I have seen a private demo with some of the Care Coordination Module, so it is actively being worked on by Z&H and the code should be pushed for public review over the next several weeks.

Lou discussed the news that CCHIT is no longer doing certification testing and that federal dollars is runnning out for the Regional Extension Centers (RECs):
http://www.healthit.gov/providers-professionals/regional-extension-centers-recs

Tony brought up CONNECT, but I forgot what came out of that discussion.

MU2 item “Image results” was then discussed. There was some confusion as to what would be needed to fulfill this criteria and it is still awaiting analysis:
http://www.open-emr.org/wiki/index.php/Image_results_(MU2)
After the meeting, I did find this thread which has discussed this item in more detail:
http://sourceforge.net/p/openemr/discussion/202506/thread/e6a4e7f4/

Here’s the MU2 barometer(still a huge amount of work to do):
http://www.open-emr.org/wiki/index.php/OpenEMR_Certification_Stage_II_Meaningful_Use#Completion_Barometer

Until next week…
-brady
OpenEMR

system · March 1, 2014, 4:25am

bradymiller wrote on Saturday, March 01, 2014:

Hi Everybody,

This is a reminder of the next conference call this Saturday (tomorrow) at 11:00 am PST. More details on the call (ie. number to call etc.) can be found here:
http://www.open-emr.org/wiki/index.php/OpenEMR_Weekly_Conference_Call_Details

Agenda is wide open. It’s three months into 2014 and still a large amount of things to do for MU2!

thanks,
-brady
OpenEMR

system · March 2, 2014, 8:35am

bradymiller wrote on Sunday, March 02, 2014:

Hi,

For the 3/1/14 conference call (note these are not official notes; just going from memory):

Attendees: Brady, Jack, Jan, Julie

Jan and Brady discussed the Demographics MU2 item, which is currently under active development by Jan :
http://www.open-emr.org/wiki/index.php/Demographics_(MU2)

Brady discussed update on MU2. Several items were picked up by Ensoftek and MI2 as they have obtained some funding for this work. Contributions continue to come in; there is now enough to pay for testing, but a lot more is still needed to fund the code development. Plan to continue to be aggressive on donation requests. Here’s the MU2 barometer:
http://www.open-emr.org/wiki/index.php/OpenEMR_Certification_Stage_II_Meaningful_Use#Completion_Barometer

Brady and Jack discussed opinions on the fallacies of patient outcome based payments.

Brady discussed plans for a 4.1.2 patch release this weekend (this was released today).

Jack asked how the development demo works, where the code comes from and how frequently it is updated. Brady discussed the new OpenEMR demo farm, which includes 10 demos (https://github.com/bradymiller/demo_farm_openemr). There is a daily development demo that builds from the official development codebase daily and a weekly development demo that builds weekly (on Monday). There is a development demo of 4.1.2 with the most recent patch that builds daily. There are two official demos, 4.1.1 and 4.1.2 that contain sample data and working offsite/onsite patient portals that reset daily. And there are three “UP FOR GRABS” demos, which we can direct to any person’s git/github repository branch (ie. do not need to be in the official codebase); these “UP FOR GRABS” demos are very cool, because they allow testers (whom don’t have their own local openemr instance) to test code before it gets into the official codebase.

Until next week…

-brady
OpenEMR

system · March 2, 2014, 4:16pm

jcahn wrote on Sunday, March 02, 2014:

Ahoy Brady.
One day after we discussed MU2 postponements (hardship) I read this:

http://www.familypracticenews.com/specialty-focus/practice-trends/single-article-page/flexibility-but-no-passes-on-meaningful-use-stage-2/209c0fb58e01f0dfa4a886a1e3862270.html?utm_source=MagnetMail&utm_medium=email&utm_term=jcahn%40ls.net&utm_content=fpn140302_final&utm_campaign=Flexibility+-+but+no+passes+-+on+meaningful+use+Stage+2

Regards Jack

On 03/02/2014 03:35 AM, Brady Miller wrote:

Hi,

For the 3/1/14 conference call (note these are not official notes; just
going from memory):

Attendees: Brady, Jack, Jan, Julie

Jan and Brady discussed the Demographics MU2 item, which is currently
under active development by Jan :
http://www.open-emr.org/wiki/index.php/Demographics_(MU2)

Brady discussed update on MU2. Several items were picked up by Ensoftek
and MI2 as they have obtained some funding for this work. Contributions
continue to come in; there is now enough to pay for testing, but a lot
more is still needed to fund the code development. Plan to continue to
be aggressive on donation requests. Here’s the MU2 barometer:
http://www.open-emr.org/wiki/index.php/OpenEMR_Certification_Stage_II_Meaningful_Use#Completion_Barometer

Brady and Jack discussed opinions on the fallacies of patient outcome
based payments.

Brady discussed plans for a 4.1.2 patch release this weekend (this was
released today).

Jack asked how the development demo works, where the code comes from and
how frequently it is updated. Brady discussed the new OpenEMR demo farm,
which includes 10 demos
(GitHub - bradymiller/demo_farm_openemr: The repo will hold the pieces for an OpenEMR demo farm.). There is a daily
development demo that builds from the official development codebase
daily and a weekly development demo that builds weekly (on Monday).
There is a development demo of 4.1.2 with the most recent patch that
builds daily. There are two official demos, 4.1.1 and 4.1.2 that contain
sample data and working offsite/onsite patient portals that reset daily.
And there are three “UP FOR GRABS” demos, which we can direct to any
person’s git/github repository branch (ie. do not need to be in the
official codebase); these “UP FOR GRABS” demos are very cool, because
they allow testers (whom don’t have their own local openemr instance) to
test code before it gets into the official codebase.

Until next week…

-brady
OpenEMR http://www.open-emr.org/

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system · March 3, 2014, 11:52am

fsgl wrote on Monday, March 03, 2014:

Is there just $2K for development, beyond the $25K? What additional efforts are needed or planned for fundraising?

system · March 4, 2014, 9:04am

bradymiller wrote on Tuesday, March 04, 2014:

Hi,

We need to keep up the aggressive fundraising effort. Just a guestimation, but shooting for at least $50K for development. After the 5th patch entry gets a couple days on the social site links, I plan to place another request for donations there.

The next question is going to be how to decide which professional developers we use. If I can give my input here, I can make this very simple; there are only two professional developers whom are able to get code into OpenEMR’s official codebase with only 0-1 code revisions per submission, so I recommend prioritizing all work to them, if possible (this will also then not over-saturate the current testing/review resources).

-brady
OpenEMR

system · March 4, 2014, 2:42pm

fsgl wrote on Tuesday, March 04, 2014:

Hi Brady,

Besides knocking on the doors of the vendors and soliciting in person, is there anything else I can do to help? If they were all within driving distance, I would do it. And I would not leave until the PayPal receipt pops up on their monitors.

Do you want to do a YouTube video solicitation? Will they permit it? (I’m not interested because it will blow my cover.) If YouTube does permit solicitions; Pimm, the animator, may want to help.

Doling out the money is the easy part as far as I’m concerned. I don’t have to deal with the politics of it.

We definitely need to obtain a grant for next time. Just imagine; one big, fat check from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation for $100K and no more fooling around with fundraising. Mr. Gates is back on top of the Forbes 400 list beating out Carlos Slim in 2013.

Thank you so very much for the Ubuntu/Debian OpenEMR package!!! It was installed in Linux Mint 16 (Jack Chan in Kuala Lumpur was right, Linux Mint is way better.) after the GDebi Package Installer got its act together. Now, onto patching it.

system · March 4, 2014, 6:08pm

jcahn2 wrote on Tuesday, March 04, 2014:

Are you referring to good old “open source Bill”?

system · March 5, 2014, 12:35pm

fsgl wrote on Wednesday, March 05, 2014:

If the $76B does not involve any blood money (I remember Joel Klein prosecuting Microsoft), would OEMR refuse a check from the Gates Foundation? For that matter, from John D. Rockefeller Sr., Andrew Carnegie or Alfred Nobel?

system · March 7, 2014, 3:50am

bradymiller wrote on Friday, March 07, 2014:

Hi fsgl,

Regarding ubuntu/debian package, if you want to see something very cool, check out the development package:
http://www.open-emr.org/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu-Debian_OpenEMR_Development_Package_Installation
(can essentially test the most recent development codebase in one command and then remove it with one more command; and can be done on same computer that has main openemr package installed; ie. they will not interfere; also, the package file is only 12kb )

A dependency that I’ve noted is missing for newer ubuntu/mint is json, which can be brought in with following command(note phpmyadmin won’t work without it):
sudo apt-get install php5-json
(this will be included in these packages in the future)

Regarding contributions, gotta keep the donations coming in. Anything that has any chance of working can be done.

-brady
OpenEMR

system · March 7, 2014, 4:06am

cmswest wrote on Friday, March 07, 2014:

nice, that’s a pretty sweet package, which makes me think that github video that ken put together could take advantage of this

regarding contributions, is there a barometer kind of like the united way does?

system · March 7, 2014, 5:22am

tmccormi wrote on Friday, March 07, 2014:

yes. its on the wiki page for stage 2… don’t have that url handy just
now… sitting in a honky tonk…

Tony McCormick

On Mar 6, 2014 8:06 PM, “Stephen Waite” cmswest@users.sf.net wrote:

nice, that’s a pretty sweet package, which makes me think that github
video that ken put together could take advantage of this

regarding contributions, is there a barometer kind of like the united way
does?

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system · March 7, 2014, 5:29am

bradymiller wrote on Friday, March 07, 2014:

Here’s the link:
http://www.open-emr.org/wiki/index.php/OpenEMR_Certification_Stage_II_Meaningful_Use#Fund_Raising

system · March 7, 2014, 5:39am

tmccormi wrote on Friday, March 07, 2014:

Another $350 came in today…

Tony McCormick

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Here’s the link:

http://www.open-emr.org/wiki/index.php/OpenEMR_Certification_Stage_II_Meaningful_Use#Fund_Raising

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system · March 7, 2014, 8:06am

bradymiller wrote on Friday, March 07, 2014:

Go Peppy!

system · March 7, 2014, 8:11am

bradymiller wrote on Friday, March 07, 2014:

Hi Everybody,

This is a reminder of the next conference call this Saturday at 11:00 am PST. More details on the call (ie. number to call etc.) can be found here:
http://www.open-emr.org/wiki/index.php/OpenEMR_Weekly_Conference_Call_Details

Agenda is wide open.

thanks,
-brady
OpenEMR