keithlofstrom wrote on Monday, April 07, 2014:
There should be some way to select “P.O.” for “by mouth” prescription directions. That abbreviates “Per Os” (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oral_administration). NOT “Per Oris”, which might be correct Latin but not correct Doctorish or Pharmaceuticalese. We’ve had pharmacies asking what the heck “per oris” means.
Not sure where to tweak OpenEMR to fix that; hacking a few text tables had no effect on the data entry window or the printed prescription.
epsdky wrote on Monday, April 07, 2014:
Do you mean this…
Admin->Lists->“Drug Routes” (From “Edit List”) (Change “Per Oris” to “P.O.” then hit save button on bottom of page)
fsgl wrote on Monday, April 07, 2014:
Could have sworn that we were taught “per oris” in medical school.
The preposition “per” takes the accusative not the ablative; therefore “oris” which is singular, genitive for the third declension makes no sense. Must not have been paying attention that day, many moons ago.
Not really a biggie because everyone, on either side of the rx pad, knows the meaning of “p.o.”. Just make the change in Lists, as suggested above, and all will be right with the world.
blankev wrote on Monday, April 07, 2014:
If there is a need, could change it for future versions of OpenEMR in databse.sql
Please advise,minor issue, but why should OpenEMR not use the correct text that is used by the majority?
tmccormi wrote on Tuesday, April 08, 2014:
Scientific and therefore medical terms are Latinized… not actually
Latin… so the rules don’t usually apply.
Tony McCormick
On Apr 7, 2014 4:48 PM, “Pieter W” blankev@users.sf.net wrote:
If there is a need, could change it for future versions of OpenEMR in
databse.sqlPlease advise,minor issue, but why should OpenEMR not use the correct text
that is used by the majority?Prescriptions - P.O., per os, per orishttps://sourceforge.net/p/openemr/discussion/202506/thread/b9cd1d49/?limit=25#4b65
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fsgl wrote on Tuesday, April 08, 2014:
I think it’s a case of faulty memory, on my part, because “n.p.o.”, which I wrote countless times as a pre-operative order, is “nil per os”.
Our professors in medical school had a more rigorous education in Latin than we, therefore it would be unlikely that they were grammatically incorrect.
David H. remembers his Latin better than myself. As he said, Latin sentences, including the first line of Caesar’s “Commentaries”, are tatooed to the conjunctivae of his eyelids. Will consult him about the matter and report back if there is a reply.
fsgl wrote on Thursday, April 10, 2014:
Hot off the press from our resident Latin scholar, David H.:
“I have no idea what they taught me in medical school, but my recollection is that ‘per’ takes the accusative case and that ‘os oris’ is a third declension neuter noun. As such, I believe that ‘per os’ is correct - or so the internet would indicate when looking up how to decline a third-declension neuter noun (I can’t confess that I really remembered). DRH”
O.K., any developer, with absolutely nothing to do; please correct the error so that our Latin teachers would not collectively roll over in their graves.
tmccormi wrote on Thursday, April 10, 2014:
The NewCrop erx interface refers to this as “per oris”… Just sayin’
Tony McCormick
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tmccormi wrote on Friday, January 09, 2015:
I’ll fix this today, on the my flight back from DC. If some tells me whether I should fix it to P.O. or to “Per Os”
fsgl wrote on Friday, January 09, 2015:
Zero controversy with p.o.
Sister Mary Alphonsus, beloved Latin teacher & presently angel in heaven, said: MULTAS GRATIAS VOBIS AGO
fr4nkie wrote on Friday, January 09, 2015:
For what it’s worth, we’ve had a few pharmacists call and ask us to clarify what was meant by Per Oris. We’ve since switched the list entry to P.O.