# What is the New Patient Form? **URL:** \ **Category:** Day-to-Day Users\ **Tags:** documentation, question\ **Created:** [October 13, 2024, 1:28pm UTC](https://community.open-emr.org/t/what-is-the-new-patient-form/23642 "2024-10-13T13:28:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Goddard](https://community.open-emr.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Goddard](https://community.open-emr.org/u/Goddard)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2024, 1:28pm UTC](https://community.open-emr.org/t/what-is-the-new-patient-form/23642/1 "2024-10-13T13:28:16Z")
I see “The New Patient Form” referenced a few different places in the documentation Example - From [LBV Forms - OpenEMR Project Wiki](https://www.open-emr.org/wiki/index.php/LBV_Forms) - Options: **N** = Show in New Patient form This “New Patient Form” sounds useful, especially if I can set an LBF option to auto-fill from it, but after some searching through the docs and playing with OpenEMR I am not confident that I have found it. My first thought was that the “New Patient Form” refers to the “Search or Add Patient” screen below, but after creating a new LBF form and setting the “Show in New Patient Form” option on one of the fields, I do not see that new field appear anywhere on this screen: ![image](https://discourse-uploads-openemr.s3.dualstack.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/original/3X/3/c/3c1c6128192aed01c59b517dfcc1fbc953653db0.png) I fully went through the process of creating a new test patient and I have still been unsuccessful in finding a “New Patient Form” Questions: - What is the “New Patient Form” and where can I find it? - What exactly does the “Show in New Patient form” LBF option do? Any and all assistance is greatly appreciated! - Thank you for reading! ---
**Author:** ![stephenwaite](https://community.open-emr.org/user_avatar/community.open-emr.org/stephenwaite/32/15754_2.png) [@stephenwaite](https://community.open-emr.org/u/stephenwaite)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2024, 5:49pm UTC](https://community.open-emr.org/t/what-is-the-new-patient-form/23642/2 "2024-10-13T17:49:14Z")
hi @Goddard , it’s the new patient encounter form. edit: sorry it’s the new patient form pictured above but it looks like that option is not being checked to control what fields show in the layout. ---
**Author:** ![Goddard](https://community.open-emr.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Goddard](https://community.open-emr.org/u/Goddard)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2024, 3:36pm UTC](https://community.open-emr.org/t/what-is-the-new-patient-form/23642/3 "2024-10-15T15:36:23Z")
@stephenwaite I’m not sure I’m understanding what you mean by _“it looks like that option is not being checked to control what fields show in the layout”_. Do you mean an option in the LBF or under Admin \> Config? Here is my LBF with the **New Patient Form** option set on the **Chief Complaint** field: ![image](https://discourse-uploads-openemr.s3.dualstack.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/original/3X/5/3/5303b6ec7afbad9db4e898081279b3fac94ea296.png) I checked for relevant-sounding settings under Admin \> Config and this is the closest I found: ![image](https://discourse-uploads-openemr.s3.dualstack.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/original/3X/3/d/3d00792a8c85aaab97f47cb3cd754ec492ad5161.png) Is there a specific setting I need to change somewhere? Huge thanks for your help! ---
**Author:** ![stephenwaite](https://community.open-emr.org/user_avatar/community.open-emr.org/stephenwaite/32/15754_2.png) [@stephenwaite](https://community.open-emr.org/u/stephenwaite)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2024, 3:37pm UTC](https://community.open-emr.org/t/what-is-the-new-patient-form/23642/4 "2024-10-15T15:37:52Z")
hi @Goddard, is the chief complaint field displaying in the new patient form? ---
**Author:** ![Goddard](https://community.open-emr.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Goddard](https://community.open-emr.org/u/Goddard)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2024, 4:16pm UTC](https://community.open-emr.org/t/what-is-the-new-patient-form/23642/5 "2024-10-15T16:16:12Z")
No, at least not that I am seeing: _(LBF and Admin \> Config settings are the same as shown in above screenshots)_ Patient \> +Add New Patient ![image](https://discourse-uploads-openemr.s3.dualstack.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/original/3X/4/2/4245ada775121365f1d96c5319ae5fbc6d9ba062.png) Not in “Who” ![image](https://discourse-uploads-openemr.s3.dualstack.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/original/3X/d/d/dd52e8ae892249db4c234a8741689a76e55f510f.png) Not in “Contact” ![image](https://discourse-uploads-openemr.s3.dualstack.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/original/3X/0/f/0f0720117ede3791ce99e5f8cf4871673488f25b.png) Not in “Choices” ![image](https://discourse-uploads-openemr.s3.dualstack.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/original/3X/a/6/a6f2073a19ab935aeeac0ac637e0f9b69ea28716.png) Not in Employer ![image](https://discourse-uploads-openemr.s3.dualstack.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/original/3X/a/6/a6f2073a19ab935aeeac0ac637e0f9b69ea28716.png) Not in Stats ![image](https://discourse-uploads-openemr.s3.dualstack.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/original/3X/3/9/39a9f1c001a67e5a4ac38af44b862b9c884a9dd1.png) Not in Misc ![image](https://discourse-uploads-openemr.s3.dualstack.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/original/3X/c/3/c34ef681f0319daa47f9993ae9312282d04f2ab9.png) Not in Guardian ![image](https://discourse-uploads-openemr.s3.dualstack.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/original/3X/2/f/2f6a585b7e4f1022eee053c06d93438ca6f4b612.png) Not in insurance ![image](https://discourse-uploads-openemr.s3.dualstack.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/original/3X/1/c/1ce21ee413ae7c3328a90bfaf96ca6e4cfdb9739.png) Not anywhere at the bottom ![image](https://discourse-uploads-openemr.s3.dualstack.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/original/3X/5/a/5a65bbb03b56918e9fc0c52c7dfb41d555838887.png) Is there somewhere else I should be checking? Thanks for the quick reply, I really appreciate your help on this @stephenwaite ! ---
**Author:** ![stephenwaite](https://community.open-emr.org/user_avatar/community.open-emr.org/stephenwaite/32/15754_2.png) [@stephenwaite](https://community.open-emr.org/u/stephenwaite)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2024, 4:17pm UTC](https://community.open-emr.org/t/what-is-the-new-patient-form/23642/6 "2024-10-15T16:17:04Z")
It appears that the new patient form isn’t looking to add any fields from LBFs that have this option set in the LBF layout builder. ---
**Author:** ![Goddard](https://community.open-emr.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Goddard](https://community.open-emr.org/u/Goddard)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2024, 4:21pm UTC](https://community.open-emr.org/t/what-is-the-new-patient-form/23642/7 "2024-10-15T16:21:32Z")
Hmm, any idea if that is due to something I have mis-configured, or if this is a bug? (I am on 7.0.2 Patch 1 BTW) Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![stephenwaite](https://community.open-emr.org/user_avatar/community.open-emr.org/stephenwaite/32/15754_2.png) [@stephenwaite](https://community.open-emr.org/u/stephenwaite)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2024, 4:29pm UTC](https://community.open-emr.org/t/what-is-the-new-patient-form/23642/8 "2024-10-15T16:29:26Z")
Maybe a feature that wasn’t implemented. ---
**Author:** ![Goddard](https://community.open-emr.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Goddard](https://community.open-emr.org/u/Goddard)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2024, 4:37pm UTC](https://community.open-emr.org/t/what-is-the-new-patient-form/23642/9 "2024-10-15T16:37:50Z")
Interesting, so is there any proof that the “Show in New Patient form” LBF field option has any effect in the most recent OpenEMR release? Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Goddard](https://community.open-emr.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Goddard](https://community.open-emr.org/u/Goddard)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2024, 1:39pm UTC](https://community.open-emr.org/t/what-is-the-new-patient-form/23642/10 "2024-10-20T13:39:06Z")
Figured it out! The New Patient Form option does work, it just seems to only be intended to be used in the Demographics System Form which can be edited from Admin \> Forms \> Layouts ![image](https://discourse-uploads-openemr.s3.dualstack.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/original/3X/a/c/aca99f63f4fbe02415718bcb2e815bbd6f4c814d.png) ![image](https://discourse-uploads-openemr.s3.dualstack.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/original/3X/f/3/f39f4ddd68597cbd5e43bafe665ad1b075bf65e9.png) This is FANTASTIC for easily making custom intake forms/processes! Excellent Feature! Thanks to @stephenwaite, whoever originally implemented this feature, and everyone who has contributed to its updates/maintenance! Issue Resolved! ---
**Author:** ![stephenwaite](https://community.open-emr.org/user_avatar/community.open-emr.org/stephenwaite/32/15754_2.png) [@stephenwaite](https://community.open-emr.org/u/stephenwaite)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2024, 9:35pm UTC](https://community.open-emr.org/t/what-is-the-new-patient-form/23642/11 "2024-10-20T21:35:12Z")
Thanks for the update and clarification. Nicely done!