tmccormi wrote on Saturday, February 04, 2012:
I created one just to see what it would look like … thoughts?
http://www.open-emr.org/wiki/index.php/MI-Squared_Contributions
-Tony
bradymiller wrote on Saturday, February 04, 2012:
Hi Tony (and everybody else),
My suggestions for the Certified OpenEMR Contributors are the following. I have used Tony’s entry as an example (Tony, I can easily reverse this if you want):
1. Place your entry into a template first:
http://open-emr.org/wiki/index.php/Template:MI-Squared
2. Replace your entry on the main page with the template:
{{MI-Squared}}
http://www.open-emr.org/wiki/index.php/OpenEMR_Professional_Support#Medical_Information_Integration.2C_LLC_-_MI2
3. Now create your contribution page:
http://open-emr.org/wiki/index.php/MI-Squared
(note can simply use the template, so can easily update this information at one site)
(My suggestion on this page is to use layman global module words in the first section then followed by more details; makes it easier for users to see if you’ve worked on something they are interested in)
(Then my suggestion for the last section is to give an estimate of how many commits you’ve done, followed by links to the commits, which can easily be done by author)
(The real goal here is for users(whom may not know much) find a vendor/developer, so I’m guessing the common things like ‘Forms’ etc, are important to show experience in)
(In the end, this is up to you; but important that you discuss what you actually committed and not the services you provide (the services are discussed in the template part already)
Also note the Certified OpenEMR Contributor links to your page also, but also agree should place the link somewhere in your template, as Tony has.
The really cool thing this does is then provides the ability place these pages into a category, which then provides us an unbiases mechanism whereby we can then link to this page when giving advice to new users whom are looking for a vendor/developer:
http://open-emr.org/wiki/index.php/Category:Certified_OpenEMR_Contributor
thoughts? Again, please let me know if this is a bad idea. This is part of a goal to make it easier (in an unbiased fashion) for new users to hire vendors/developers.
-brady
bradymiller wrote on Saturday, February 04, 2012:
Hi,
To make it easier for entries to modify(certified contributor ones) their templates and contributors page, will place the links to them here:
http://open-emr.org/wiki/index.php/Talk:OpenEMR_Professional_Support#Entries_that_have_committed_code_to_the_official_codebase
(Note the two links for MI-squared entries)
Note this is completely optional. But if need help, I am happy to set up the basic template and contributor page (you will be responsible for the content of the contributor page, though).
-brady
blankev wrote on Saturday, February 04, 2012:
Just got a peek at MI-squared contribution to the professional pages. Looks great! But I made a login. I as a non committer of all MI-squared contributions could make a change. Is there an option to let only accepted persons make changes in the Professional pages, so relative outsiders like me could be banned? In the long run it would be an advantage and make these pages less prone to unwanted interference………
bradymiller wrote on Saturday, February 04, 2012:
Hi Pimm,
The only editors that should be modifying the professional pages are the owners of the entry and contributor pages; for example only MI2 should be editing their pages. I have all the pages on my watchlist (I actually have the entire wiki on my watchlist), so easy to quickly catch and reverse any unauthorized edits. Also is a good idea for the owners of pages to also place their pages on their watchlist to ensure the same.
(Note their is a way to protect pages, but only for groups, so would be tedious for above. That being said, the download page is protected (only can be edited by myself or Rod), to not allow modification of the download links)
-brady
blankev wrote on Saturday, February 04, 2012:
Brady,
tnx for the clarification. With your great accomplishments I am sure you have the information 24 hrs covered ;-))
So a do not worry anymore! Keep up the good works for OpenEMR.
Pimm
sunsetsystems wrote on Saturday, February 04, 2012:
For some reason when I run https://github.com/openemr/openemr/commits/master?author=sunsetsystems it only goes back to November of 2010. Brady, do you know why that would be? I’ve got commits dating all the way back to 2005.
zhhealthcare wrote on Saturday, February 04, 2012:
Among the top 30 contributors my their are about 4-5 people form ZH Services. Searching like this will not give an aggregate picture of zhservices’ contribution.
Shameem
bradymiller wrote on Saturday, February 04, 2012:
Rod,
Lets move the search to sourceforge (turns out github only seems to link entries since the repo was begun there). So, on sourceforge doing this seems to get all your commits:
http://openemr.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=openemr/openemr;a=search;s=sunsetsystems;st=author
-brady
bradymiller wrote on Saturday, February 04, 2012:
Also,
A nice place to get an idea of your number of total commits are here:
http://www.ohloh.net/p/openemr/contributors
(note you only have a mere 1300, Rod…)
-brady
bradymiller wrote on Saturday, February 04, 2012:
The nice thing about the sourceforge search is it looks at both the name and the email address(which is why sunsetsystems get both the Rod Roarks and the sunsetsystems commits. So for Z&H, guessing the common email address zhservice may work:
http://openemr.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=openemr/openemr;a=search;s=zhservices;st=author
Or could do what MI-Squared did, and do one for each developer if above doesn’t capture them all.
-brady
bradymiller wrote on Saturday, February 04, 2012:
Hi,
Another option for Z&H to capture everything is the following from github:
https://github.com/openemr/openemr/commits/master?author=zhservices
-brady
bradymiller wrote on Saturday, February 04, 2012:
Hi,
Think I figured out why github stops at november, 2011. It is because github seems to use the email address to identify authors, however previous to november, 2011 (when we were committing to cvs), note the author tags do not contain an email address, just simply repeat the name. Guessing this is what is throwing off the search on github.
-brady
bradymiller wrote on Saturday, February 04, 2012:
clarify above, meant to say November, 2010.
bradymiller wrote on Saturday, February 04, 2012:
ok,
Have settled on the following criteria for the Certified OpenEMR Contributors, which seems fair:
1. A commit (via git) is accepted into the official OpenEMR codebase over the last year.
2. At least one of the developers associated with the entry is a Privileged Developer or Integration Developer.
Here’s the section on the wiki further describing this:
http://open-emr.org/wiki/index.php/Talk:OpenEMR_Professional_Support#Certified_OpenEMR_Contributors
Also placed a template format and link to an example of the contribution page:
http://open-emr.org/wiki/index.php/Talk:OpenEMR_Professional_Support#Certified_OpenEMR_Contributor_wiki_page_format
The following entries that would qualify are:
IntegralEMR (if desired)
Medical Information Integration, LLC - MI2
Sunset Systems
TajEmo Enterprises
Z&H Consultancy Services (Pvt) Ltd.
Z&H Healthcare Solutions, LLC.
ZoneOne LLC.
I am happy to create the template and contributions pages for you (very minimal work); you will need to fill out the “Contributed Features” section yourself though 
(I’ll just put a Under Construction there). Let me know if you want me to do this and then I’ll post the links (like are posted for MI-Squared) in above wiki link so easy for you to finish/modify. Please note this is completely optional.
-brady
bradymiller wrote on Monday, February 20, 2012:
Hi,
Two things to update:
1. The Support page has been cleaned up.
All the entries there actually exist and declare support for OpenEMR on their websites (and provide a link back to the project) (note that two entries are still in progress of fulfilling the guidelines).
2. The ‘Certified OpenEMR Contributor’ stuff has been implemented per the two criteria described in above post.
Entries that fulfill this requirement have their own wiki page, of which the links to them are listed here: http://www.open-emr.org/wiki/index.php/Talk:OpenEMR_Professional_Support#Certified_OpenEMR_Contributors . This has then allowed us to create this cool ‘Certified OpenEMR Contributor’ category page at: http://www.open-emr.org/wiki/index.php/Category:Certified_OpenEMR_Contributor . Also note these contributors can add additional details, if they wish, to their wiki page as described here: http://www.open-emr.org/wiki/index.php/Talk:OpenEMR_Professional_Support#Certified_OpenEMR_Contributor_wiki_page_format .
Craig from TajEmo Enterprises has kindly donated ‘Certified OpenEMR Contributor’ logos, which look much better than the previous ones and are now being used on the wiki.
-brady
bradymiller wrote on Tuesday, February 21, 2012:
Hi,
To complement the Professional Support pages, I created a new link on the open-emr.org site (tab at top entitled ‘Support’): http://www.open-emr.org/wiki/index.php/OpenEMR_Support_Guide
Two goals of this are:
1. Increase traffic to the Professional Support page
2. Ease the process of choosing a professional vendor/developer which has been touted by others to be a con of OpenEMR: http://www.oemr.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=22&hilit=advantages&start=10#p122
The hope is to concisely illustrate the following points on the support page:
http://www.open-emr.org/wiki/index.php/Open_source_openemr#Discuss_how_to_choose_vendor.2Fsupport
Always open to any thoughts/contributions on this stuff.
-brady
blankev wrote on Tuesday, February 21, 2012:
I read your page. Good sheet of general compact information.
First sentence and question:
A huge advantage of open source software is the ability to choose whom will provide you support.
you should it be your or should it be you with support or is your intention correct English?
Just a minor correction, or is it correct they way you wrote the sentence? (YES tnx for the answer! Depends on the intention meant.
BTW Doing it yourself might seem to be FREE, but usually involves many hours of time spend to understand the mechanisms, and time is money……… ;-))
PS, I took the liberty to change things around to mae it more attractive in my feelings for reading information. Please correct it back, if you do not agree.
bradymiller wrote on Tuesday, February 21, 2012:
Hi Pimm,
Thanks for making it more attractive. Clarified it a bit in some places (like the forums description) and removed the Somewhere in Between section
-brady
bradymiller wrote on Wednesday, February 29, 2012:
Dear OEMR (and everybody else),
On Sunday, OEMR copied over the Professional Support page from the OpenEMR community project (open-emr.org) site to oemr.org and because of the complicated nature of those pages (see above for details on this project), the ‘OpenEMR Certifiied Vendors’ entries are all BLANK. The vendors that have BLANK entries include MI-squares, Z&H Healthcare, Sunset Systems and TajEmo Enterprises. I have emailed OEMR privately several times to ask them to fix this issue and am a bit disheartened that it has not yet been fixed.
This actually brings up a good thing to discuss, which is if it makes any sense to even try to migrate/mirror the Professional Support page on oemr.org when OEMR could simply just link directly to the open-emr.org page (which is how it was previously set up). Now that we have the Professional Support mechanism in place (described above) to ensure only quality entries can be placed on this page along with the ‘OpenEMR Certified Contributor’ I think it is best to keep the Professional support page centralized and in the hands of a contributor whom is competent using templating/labeling on mediawiki. Additionally, it is important that the contributor whom manages this page is vendor neutral and on good terms with all the other vendors. The OpenEMR community project site (and myself) is vendor neutral and I have emailed all of these vendors and am on good terms with all of these vendors. This professional support page work was part of a clearly defined effort (outlined in this forum thread) to improve accessibility for new users while rewarding vendors/developers whom contribute code to OpenEMR and I see no reason to derail it by attempting to mirror/migrate it:
http://www.open-emr.org/wiki/index.php/Open_source_openemr#Discuss_how_to_choose_vendor.2Fsupport (wiki page)
My questions to OEMR are:
Do you truly think it makes sense to migrate(or mirror) the professional support page to the oemr.org wiki?
If so, who’s gonna fix it now, maintain it, enforce the guideline, and keep track of and build the ‘certified contributor’ pages/templates???
Thoughts?
Sincerely,
brady