OEMR Board: Discussion on whether to use funds to promote OpenEMR on OpenHealthNews.com

tmccormi wrote on Monday, March 30, 2015:

The president has proposed that we place an “ad” on the OpenHealthNew.com website to help promote awareness of the OpenEMR project to the industry descision makers. Other open source EHR projects, such as OSHERA (vista) and Tolven (an EMR) are listed as well as vendors for these and for OpenEMR forks as well.

The ad would cost $1875 for one year (though we might be able to get it for half of that cost)

Here’s a summary (I will post the entire email discussion thread here as well in a comment)

OHNews is at the core a content curation/content marketing platform. We have over 20,000 content items, from articles to resource listings.

Key to what we have accomplished is that our visitors are really serious. They come to our site to do research. As you can see from our Alexa Web Rankings our readers come specifically to our site (low bounce rate), spend on average 15 to 30 minutes on the website, and read between 5 and 10 articles during a visit. The Alexa Rankings go up or down depending on multiple factors. At one point last September we were ranked #4 Health IT publication in the United States. If we had money, we would be #1. And that would change the dynamics of the health IT industry.

Here are some additional details.
Our current traffic numbers are:
Unique Visitors (monthly): 18,000 to 20,000
Unique Visitors (all time): 405,000
Page Views (monthly): 250,000 to 320,000
Page Views (all time): 8.2 million
Hits (monthly): 450,000 to 560,000
Hits (all time): 15.3 million

These are some of the benefits of a sponsorship:
Sponsor Listing: Sponsors will be listed on the Sponsors page of the website. That means your logo will be on that page.
Press Releases and News Clippings: We will post your press releases and news items related to your open health efforts in our news aggregation section and properly tag them to make them easily searchable.
Event Updates: We will post all relevant event notices, from conferences to webinars, in our calendar section.
Hyperlinks: We will hyperlink your company name or designated project or product in our content items where the name appears (articles, blog posts, press releases, etc.).
Tags: Each news item related to our sponsors will be tagged and we can work with you to develop specific tags for a better description.
Resource Section Listing(s): We will provide an entry in our resource section for your company as well as your solutions. Each solution gets its own page and includes tags.

Roger A. Maduro
Publisher and Editor-in-Chief
Open Health News

tmccormi wrote on Monday, March 30, 2015:

Original Post similar to above by Tony, President OEMR

Art Eaton
Mar 26 (4 days ago)

to me, David, Gregory, Jack, Kevin, Sam, Sena, Shameem
I am all for that.
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Jack Cahn
Mar 26 (4 days ago)

to Art, me, David, Gregory, Kevin, Sam, Sena, Shameem
Cast your bread upon that water. Jack Cahn

Shameem Hameed
Mar 27 (3 days ago)

to me, Art, David, Gregory, Jack, Kevin, Sam, Sena
Hi Guys

Nice to hear from you all.

Roger and his site are great, and he is doing a lot for open source which is why we decided to support him.

However here are some facts that we all need to be aware of: In Alexa rankings, the lower your rank the more popular your site. open-emr.org has a number of 295,000 whilst OHN has a ranking of only 475,000. In other words open-emr draws more traffic. What I am saying is openemr may not need the marketing as much as the Vendors do.

We at ZH supported OHN on our dime because it is commercially advantageous to us. Wouldn’t it be better for Vendors like MI2, visolve, ensoftek et cetera to advertise rather than openemr non-profit? Vendors like ZH and MI2 have more money and stand to gain as well. Might we not be better off spending non-profit money on development?

ZH will continue to support OHN and promote openemr. We’ve given him articles and also hiring others to write about openemr: all paid for by ZH. I encourage other Vendors to do the same.


Shameem C Hameed

Art Eaton
Mar 27 (3 days ago)

to Shameem, me, David, Gregory, Jack, Kevin, Sam, Sena
Alexa rankings are based on people that have the alexa toolbar (read ‘virus’). That is a very poor indicator to track corporate (and especially software professional) interest in a site. There are other reasons why it could and should be ignored, along with the google flavor. It in no way accounts for newsfeeds, mailing lists, sub-domain access or any other meaningful level of communication.
Personally, I feel the OpenEMR brand of OpenEMR should have some presence.

Tony McCormick tony@mi-squared.com
Mar 27 (3 days ago)

to Art, Shameem, David, Gregory, Jack, Kevin, Sam, Sena
Need to hear from Sena, Sam and Kevin please…

Sena P
Mar 27 (3 days ago)

to me, Art, Shameem, David, Gregory, Jack, Kevin, Sam
Thanks for asking my views.
Unfortunately, I do not have an opinion or views here.

Regards,
Sena

Kevin Yeh
Mar 28 (2 days ago)

to Sena, me, Art, Shameem, David, Gregory, Jack, Sam
If a vote were being taken right now, mine would be no.

For comparison, another potential use for $2000 for OEMR user outreach might be to pay for a registration server and code to collect contact information as part of the install and upgrade scripts.

What will the contents of the Ad be?

In your original message, there is this statement from the folks at OHN.

I was thinking that what may help the most is to do a 2 for 1 ads for you guys. For the price of one ad, we can run ads for both MI-Squared and OEMR. That should really have an impact.

How do we truly figure out what the impact is?

I could be convinced otherwise, but as it stands, I vote no.

Tony McCormick tony@mi-squared.com
Mar 28 (2 days ago)

to Kevin, Gregory, Sam, David, Sena, Jack, Shameem, Art
I do intend to run an ad for mi2.
If he gives a the OEMR a 50% discount because of that then cool.

The ad it self is a graphic link. But the benefits are ongoing articles and content about the project. Very worth it.

Kevin Yeh
Mar 28 (2 days ago)

to me, Gregory, Sam, David, Sena, Jack, Shameem, Art
How does a graphic link result in $2000 value to oemr.org though?

Does the link go to the donations page? Do we expect 20 people to click through and donate $100?

“But the benefits are ongoing articles and content about the project.” What does this mean? Is OHN going to write articles about OpenEMR for this fee?

Still unclear about the ROI to the project for purchasing an Ad.

Art Eaton
Mar 28 (2 days ago)

to Kevin, me, Gregory, Sam, David, Sena, Jack, Shameem

  1. OEMR as an entity is represented in a venue of interested parties. Hey, why would Apache or Mozilla advertise, right? Associated branding and presence is not someone like you are me has anything but contempt for and have a hard time relating to at all. Reality; consisting of all the Earth Humans out there, forms a different opinion. People get degrees and jobs with measurable returns for their employers promulgating crap like this all over billboards and public transit. I could probably post a picture of a fat dude in a suit with poorly-applied studio make-up on, and you would instantly recognize him as a personal injury lawyer with nationwide presence. His firm has made millions (billions?) by using such methods. The folks slapping his picture on phonebook covers (remember those?) can actually measure their return on totally untargeted advertising that does nothing but promote brand recognition. Try to quantify measures like this on a small scale by such as us, and you will have trouble…but the social science agrees that it is important. We have a total dearth of such brand promotion. Our brand gets published when someone else wishes to publish it for their own ends.
  2. Some might feel that making our project more visible specifically to bring in more interested developers (fresh, new, naive young nerds) is a waste of time. On the small scale, this is true. We get someone into the project, they make a big fuss, then they are gone. Poof. What a waste of time. Fine. On the other hand, if you attract 200 new developers, and just one of them contributes something meaningful, then gets snapped up by one of the contributing vendors and is putting out good stuff in perpetuum, how does 2k stack up? I have spent many years doing everything myself and discovering that it is killing me. Then I go through many years hiring and firing (and providing bail money), and then I switch back to a one-man shop. Every once in a while, someone good does come along. We don’t have to fire anyone. We don’t have to hire anyone. The wheat separates itself from the chaff. All we have to do is provide the job listing.

My question: Can we alter our advert periodically? If so, we can rig it to sometimes be re: OpenEMR news, sometimes promote OpenEMR events (wouldn’t mind having a pointer to a hacking session on that site), and sometimes a “Find Careers in OpenEMR” tag.

Brady Miller
10:26 PM (13 hours ago)

to Shameem, me, Art, David, Gregory, Jack, Kevin, Sam, Sena
Hi,

Two things.

  1. Also agree to focus funds on development, since MU2 should get priority. If there is a 2 for 1 deal, perhaps some of the vendors can pay for their advertisements; and then the OpenEMR project could benefit from a “free”(in theory, at least) ad that would not cost OEMR anything.

  2. Lets re-ignite OEMR and get a meeting going and get new members in. I’d be happy to volunteer for it and guessing I could get some more community members to also.

Tony McCormick tony@mi-squared.com
12:20 AM (12 hours ago)

to Brady, Shameem, Art, David, Gregory, Jack, Kevin, Sam, Sena
It would be good to remember that the OEMR’s mission as related to the project and as requested by development community, is to promote OpenEMR. If the first thing that we do this year is block some small efforts toward that mission we aren’t going to get very far.

You all know that I personally raised the bulk of the money to fund MU2 and Sam Bowen funded MU1 personally. I can’t do that again, if the OEMR needs to raise development money for openemr-org then we have to be known outside of our development community. OpenHealthNews is a tiny step in that direction. My hosting a booth at SXSW and next month with Columbia University at HIMSS are steps toward making the Project something beyond a backwater.

The vote stands, so far, at 3 for, 2 against 1 abstaining and 3 people that have not voted yet.

Brady’s opinion and indeed the opinion of the community matter in this, with the permission of the board I will publish this discussion on the Users forum and open it to the community.

NB: I am not (at all) discounting the volunteer efforts and vendor contributions of man power toward MU1 and MU2 by many, that is critical to maintain as well.

Shameem Hameed
6:51 AM (5 hours ago)

to me, Brady, Art, David, Gregory, Jack, Kevin, Sam, Sena
Yes, we can promote OpenEMR. Each of the Vendors who get so much business by being associated with OpenEMR should do that, This needs to happen without digging into the non-profit fund. I have already paid Roger $5000 for an advt, not because there is a lot of traffic that he drives but because he is happy to post the articles that I write about OpenEMR and BlueEHS. I intend to continue along those lines. We are positioning OpenEMR as the most popular open source ambulatory EHR (period).

Being on the Board of OpenEMR our actions should be guided by the principle of “Caesar’s wife not only being chaste but also being above suspicion.”

Kevin Yeh
7:23 AM (4 hours ago)

to me, Brady, Shameem, Art, David, Gregory, Jack, Sam, Sena
Spending money to improve OpenEMR’s visibility and to reach out to more users and developers is a good idea. The issue is that the proposed approach (“graphical link”) to an undetermined OEMR webpage is not a sufficiently formed idea. Repeating a prior unanswered question: “Where does the link off of OHN’s” site go? Does it just go to the OEMR home page with the donate link? Is it a “recruitment” pitch for developers to come work on the project? Is it a suggestion to come an try the application? Is the link on OHN’s website just the OEMR logo? Something else with text? What are anticipated “click through” and “conversion” rates? Are there other websites beside OHN that are worth considering, in addition/instead? How does this amount of money compare to OEMR’s cash reserves? Is this proposal really a “small effort”? Are OHN’s readers the best audience to target with these funds? Can we do any of the things Art proposed regarding ad content? Is a one month Ad on OHN specific to the next Hack-a-thon an option? Another audiences to consider are the students who are learning about OpenEMR. Here’s a half baked idea. How about a $2000 prize for the best code submission, (prototype feature, bug fix).

The devil is in the details.

My statements are not some sort of filibusterer to try and “block” progress toward “the mission.” They are concerns about this specific approach. Presumably yes votes from 2 of the 3 people who have not voted would still result in approval, so hopefully they will chime in either way.

I have no objections to continuing this discussion on the Users forum.

Art Eaton
8:34 AM (3 hours ago)

to Kevin, me, Brady, Shameem, David, Gregory, Jack, Sam, Sena
I agree with Kevin on many points, specifically
1. If it is a “graphical link” (what other than graphics ever appear on a screen?) then where does it connect to, and can it be updated/changed? I have no problem with a simple advert with enough content to accurately represent the product, but knowing where twenty weeks of grocery money is going up front would be good to know.
2. OEMR funding review would be nice. What better opportunity? I am sure we need a real agenda item occasionally (not that this isn’t one).
3. If we have 2k to spend, what about Kevin’s other suggestion? What about weekly prizes of 200 bucks for the best code submission? Kinda makes code review an immediate item of interest, bottom to top. That’s ten weeks of prizes! What better reason for someone to break up a big submission into ten clean sequential branches? :wink: Why not try to get prizes donated? I am sure Microsoft still has some leftover Surface RT’s in stock… :slight_smile: These are things a non-profit BOD are supposed to be doing.
4. By all means, I approve of allowing this discussion to flow over into a forum, but we still need the business side handled outside of the direct effect of the free-for all. Decisions are nice outcomes vs. dying in committee.

Sam Bowen
9:01 AM (3 hours ago)

to Art, Kevin, me, Brady, Shameem, David, Gregory, Jack, Sena
I think advertising OpenEMR in general will help the entire project. OpenEMR suffers from a general lack of awareness in the general EHR community. Increasing visibility will attract more users. More users will attack both developers for the project and paying customers for the vendors. The more paying customers that the vendors get the more free stuff they will be willing to donate to the project. Everything is driven in a positive way by increasing public awareness.

So I would yes for advertising in OpenHealth News.

Sam Bowen, MD

Tony McCormick tony@mi-squared.com
11:41 AM (40 minutes ago)

to Kevin, Gregory, Sam, Brady, Sena, Shameem, David, Jack, Art
All excellent points Kevin and details that need to be worked out as well. This particular discussion is about whether to move forward on the idea of a supporting the OEMR through open health news as a venue through an ad. The "ad’ itself would just be a logo / graphic on the right side that would link back to OEMR.org, since this would be an OEMR.org funded ad. That main page needs so updates before we pull the trigger, no doubt.

OpenHealthNews is targeted at the industry, not at developers or even individual users but intended to make people that influence decisions about adoption aware that we exist at all.

*The vote stands, so far, at 4 for, 2 against 1 abstaining and 2 people that have not voted yet (and likely won’t, they being the lawyer and the accountant).

tmccormi wrote on Monday, March 30, 2015:

One more note to the community, buried in that long thread are some great ideas about how to bolster community support as well. We’d love to hear from all of you on this topic.

Tony
Prez OEMR.org 501c3

bradymiller wrote on Tuesday, March 31, 2015:

Hi,

I agree that increasing awareness of OpenEMR is a great goal. But, don’t these kinds of decisions require knowledge of the financials of oemr and where the money is coming from and going to in addition to the rate it is coming in and going out. If $160 a month doesn’t break the bank, doesn’t eat up all the money coming in, and ensures adequate funding for MU2, then it would seem reasonable (after properly answering all of Kevin’s questions above).

I was going to push for more MU2 donations via open-emr.org since there is a missing funding gap for the MU2 CQM item. Is there a way to ensure the funds from that effort will get earmarked for MU2 development?

thanks,
-brady

unclenate wrote on Tuesday, March 31, 2015:

We might consider a separate donation program as well. The advertisement
itself should probably be an appeal for funds, which should be earmarked to
offset the expenditures. We should also ask if they have a more
comprehensive media kit, like the one attached.

Hi,

I agree that increasing awareness of OpenEMR is a great goal. But, don’t
these kinds of decisions require knowledge of the financials of oemr and
where the money is coming from and going to in addition to the rate it is
coming in and going out. If $160 a month doesn’t break the bank, doesn’t
eat up all the money coming in, and ensures adequate funding for MU2, then
it would seem reasonable (after properly answering all of Kevin’s questions
above).

I was going to push for more MU2 donations via open-emr.org since there is
a missing funding gap for the MU2 CQM item. Is there a way to ensure the
funds from that effort will get earmarked for MU2 development?

thanks,
-brady

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fsgl wrote on Tuesday, March 31, 2015:

MU2 has not been fully certified. Is there enough money to finish the job?

If we are rolling in excess cash, which I doubt; there is MU3 to think about.

Open source is like religion, either one is a believer or not. No amount of advertising, even done by Madison Avenue, is likely to change minds.

There is also a cultural bias in the U.S. against open source applications among the medical community. If it’s free, it can’t be any good. You get what you pay for. If there is no charge, run in the opposite direction.

One can advertise until the cows come home and attract a legion of bright, young developers; but American physicians won’t touch the stuff because there is no price tag attached.

There is no way OpenEMR can compete with the big boys in funds allocated for promotion.

Is there anything wrong or undesirable with being a niche part of “the market”?

robertovasquez wrote on Tuesday, March 31, 2015:

What Came First, the Chicken or the Egg?
We need both;
But witch one came first?

To exit the loop we can call a Function that offer OpenEmr support and services for a fee.
By far the most common method of income is to provide a service alongside the OSS product. Pick any OSS project from random and there’s a good chance that they utilize this method in one way or another.

fsgl wrote on Wednesday, April 01, 2015:

Mother = OpenEMR Project
Child = Contributors with their for-profit companies.
We have both.

Mother should save $$ for MU2 & MU3.
Child can spend his own money for promotion.

Donations were solicited for MU2 development work, not for advertising. I worked on the appeal. In fact Brady has yet to remove it from the Wiki, so the appeal is ongoing.

The Red Cross raised millions of dollars for 9/11 victims. When the public learned that their donations had been diverted to other relief efforts; there was a huge outcry, forcing the Red Cross to offer a public apology & to re-allocate funds. Dr. Healy resigned over the matter.

This episode was not nearly as shameful, compared to United Way spending donations on a jacuzzi & other perks for its corporate employees; but still damaged Red Cross’ reputation.

tmccormi wrote on Wednesday, April 01, 2015:

I personally raised money for the OEMR from my customer and contacts that is NOT intended to be just for MU but for the promotion of Open Source Health solutions, including OpenEMR. The OEMR’s mission is not limited to OpenEMR development funding. Though 90% of it has been. The money raised directly by this (website) is a very nice thing but amounts to about $3000.00 total of the $30,000+ that was contributed last year.

Think bigger, we could be the national EPR for the UK and Ireland if we can put together support for the project that is known and trusted by the likes of http://www.osehra.org/.

We are making strides in that direction with the Peace Corps adoption as well as the Armed Forces Retirement System.

This is not about “selling” openEMR, its about being able to, eventually, get grants that will allow the project to do some of the BIG things and not have to worry about raising funds for them all the time.

It’s about continuing to attract new developers and vendors to the project so it continues to get better and better.

PS: as soon as the treasurer gets the tax filing done we will publish the 990.

–Tony

tmccormi wrote on Wednesday, April 01, 2015:

Errata, there was $6000 that came from the paypal/website last year, had to go check my memory… not bad at all really (the money, not my memory, which is bad).

So you have an idea what the current state is:

  • Bank has about $26,000 right now
  • We will owe Infogard about $10,000 when we finish certification
  • There are two big projects that need “outside” development

AMC reporting and CQM reporting. mi-squared is about 1/2 through with AMC. We plan on donating half of the labor costs, expecting about $5000 as the final cost.

That leaves about $11K in the budget and we are getting about $600/m in paypal donations this year.

CQM is the biggest one and does not have anyone stepping up to do it yet, though Rod has been thinking about it.

-Tony

bradymiller wrote on Wednesday, April 01, 2015:

Hi,

Very helpful to know these numbers(also pretty awesome to see $600 a month coming in from small donations; several years ago, we would of never thought that to be possible). I have gotten a estimate from a reputable party for CQM MU2 item of approximately $18K. Still waiting on Rod’s quote, but the CQM item likely still leaves OEMR funds in the red for MU2 at this time.

Overall, seems best to think in terms of cash flow since OEMR will essentially be at zero funds after MU2 is completed (meaning all will be spent to get the MU2 prize; sort of like what happens when a person undertakes a big house remodeling project). Then can really focus on what comes in and manage it appropriately. For example, could ensure all paypal stuff earmarked from open-emr.org site goes into things that are palatable to the OpenEMR community (per above post by fsgl) and the funds brought in by OEMR (oemr website donations, certification rebranding, etc.) could go into whatever OEMR deems appropriate.

-brady
OpenEMR

tmccormi wrote on Wednesday, April 01, 2015:

The Board voted in favor, but I wouldn’t make any moves on this proposal until there is a clear consensus. Looks like about 50/50 now in the forum.

Plenty to work to do generally, like getting the OEMR website updated a bit and, well, MU2 of course.

–Tony

robertovasquez wrote on Wednesday, April 01, 2015:

There is article in ibm.com
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/ssa/industry/library/ind-openemr/
how much did openemr pay for that article?
I guess nothing.
Certification is the priority.

tmccormi wrote on Wednesday, April 01, 2015:

Correct. Some stuff comes for free. And you get a wide variety of
quality. That article is quite out of date now…And no one has written
admiring about the current certification effort, which is mighty and worth
writing about

Tony McCormick

On Apr 1, 2015 7:29 AM, “Roberto Vasquez” robertovasquez@users.sf.net
wrote:

There is article in ibm.com
IBM Developer
how much did openemr pay for that article?
I guess nothing.
Certification is the priority.

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fsgl wrote on Wednesday, April 01, 2015:

OSEHRA is plugging VistA. I found it to be plain awful in 2009, so an instantaneous downgrade of OSEHRA’s credibility from the start.

The MI-Squared website does not seem to offer another EHR beyond OpenEMR. If the solicitations had these elements; urgency (we need MU2 certification by Dec. 31, 2014) & gratitude (consider donating some of the EHR bonus back to the MU2 effort); I would surmise that it was more about OpenEMR MU2 certification in particular rather than promoting open source EHR’s in general. One can solicit for the latter at any time in the calendar.

I hope that Democracy is the guiding principle in these Fora rather than a situation wherein the opinion of small donors are tolerated only in meek assent while big donors have a thundering microphone.

I don’t think that composing and illustrating “A Special Appeal” nor sending cash, permit me to consider the PayPal donations as a personal fiefdom. Such a feudal mindset makes one vulnerable to the slippery slope of descent from the Red Cross example to that of United Way.

OpenEMR will probably be U.S.-centric for the foreseeable future. It will go nowhere without certification in the U.S., so we can forget about the United Kingdom. Terry Hill had commented that his company hesitated about participation in a regional Optometric conference because he was concerned that he would “get hammered” without the certification. It would be the equivalent of setting up a hot dog stand at the conference.

The downside of “thinking bigger” is losing focus on the task at hand & incremental steps toward the proprietary model. If the latter were to happen, the Project runs the risk of losing hard-working & generous developers like Rod, Brady, Stephen & Terry. I am unfamiliar with the work of other developers; thus unable to comment on the quality of their work, however, excellent.

Allocation of remaining funds to MU2, MU3 does not preclude the submission of grant proposals. OpenEMR is pretty darned good the way it is presently & truly deserving of a grant at this moment.

Unsolicited & unpurchased plugs such as 1, 2 & 3 are priceless. They are the equivalent of growing a medical practice with word of mouth. Those patients tend to be reasonable, cooperative, timely in remittances while patients persuaded by media are generally demanding, opinionated & deadbeats.

teryhill wrote on Wednesday, April 01, 2015:

We did not go to regional. We are looking forward to maybe getting the chance to take a completely certified product to the nationals, but the hotdog stand is on standby.

Salesman , Jim , is looking at every opportunity.

Terry

jcahn2 wrote on Thursday, April 02, 2015:

The discussion is very helpful, makes one think about things. I change my vote to no to the proposed ad.

Although Walt Kelly was satirizing congress and its about-face over the Vietnam War, I still wish to be considered for the 2015 Ig Noble Peace Prize for “Bravery in changing [my] mind”, as once did Congressman Moop. The attachments are explanatory.

bradymiller wrote on Thursday, April 02, 2015:

Have listing of prior free articles here:
http://www.open-emr.org/wiki/index.php/OpenEMR_Wiki_Home_Page#OpenEMR_Articles_and_Presentations

bradymiller wrote on Thursday, April 02, 2015:

Hi,

In attempts to delineate the current incoming OEMR funding(focusing on the current cash flow and not the past contributions):

Here is the wordage on the donate paypal links in the “purpose section”:
from open-emr.org: “OEMR 501©(3) OpenEMR Reference: openemr-donation”
from sourceforge: “Donation to OpenEMR”
from oemr.org: “OEMR 501©(3) OpenEMR Reference: openemr-donation”

For the current incoming funds, pretty clear where the intended use of the donations go to from all the donate links. Probably would also infer that all mail in donations should go to OpenEMR. Even the MU2 rebranding fees (I think $1000 a pop), can be argued to stem from OpenEMR since they only exists because of OpenEMR. At this point, seems like all current incoming funds should be destined to OpenEMR. Are there are other current mechanisms for incoming funds?

thanks
-brady

bradymiller wrote on Thursday, April 02, 2015:

Hi,

For big picture, OEMR is super important for funding, grants and certification; really need to have a non-profit organization behind the project. Would be nice to get some more members of the OpenEMR community onto the OEMR board to help re-ignite the organization, ensure the decisions align with OpenEMR, and to try to take some of the workload off of Tony. (I myself would be happy to volunteer to join the board.)

-brady