jenjhall wrote on Wednesday, April 06, 2011:
Ok. So I have Openemr 4.0 w/ patch on my ubuntu 10.04 server and the people in the practice access it through their XP clients. How much is it going to matter (i.e. what specific functionality will they lose, if any) if they continue to use Microsoft Explorer instead of converting to Firefox? I would be able to get them to upgrade their browsers but I don’t know if I can get them to convert to Firefox w/o a strong specific argument.
jcahn2 wrote on Wednesday, April 06, 2011:
Ahoy jenjhall.
This is a little off your topic but I have had occasional locking with FF 4.0. Unfortunately I don’t remember whether or not it was with OpenEMR4 or which page. But In the meantime I gave chrome a try, and I love it. Fast and no locking, and less baggage. Takes just a little while to learn a slightly different interface. Just a thought while you are in the switching mood.
Jack Cahn MD
mukoya wrote on Wednesday, April 06, 2011:
For me, I separate regular browsing and OpenEMR. After trying 3 browsers that gave me display issues, I went back and stuck to firefox:
2. Opera, K-Meleon: The sliding menu buttons and the top buttons in clinical view (previously on the right, which contain Clinical, Admin . . . menus) are all grey, regardless of theme-I actually lived with this for a long time before official release until I had issues with XAMPP 1.7.4. I switched to FF to see if errors will be solved only to meet a new exciting interface.
2. Chrome: This is what I use for regular browsing. Love it. When used with OEMR 4.0, I noticed that when selecting providers on the calendar view, the selected name has a grey rather than the usual blue background. Having had issues with greyness before (see (1) above), I did not want to to go further because I could meet other defects that I might not even recognize as defects.
On Firefox, I made OpenEMR login my home page, Disabled the status bar, Side bar, tabbed browsing and all toolbars including menu, address, navigation, bookmarks. Auto-fill, password memory etc were disabled. I now have a lot of screen real estate with a thin strip at the top containing only the close minimize, restore buttons.
Just for fun, I changed the name FireFox, the window Icon and shortcut icon such that it may appear to a lay person not to be a browser. So here, Firefox is exclusively for OEMR and Chrome (and others) for other stuff.
mukoya wrote on Wednesday, April 06, 2011:
Forgot to mention, Superficial testing of IE8 looks fine.
jenjhall wrote on Wednesday, April 06, 2011:
Hi Jack,
My people are Microsoft embedded. To make my question simple, am I going to embarrass myself while demonstrating OpenEMR in their Explorer by having it lock up or be unable to access some needed feature? Its been said that Firefox is the recommended browser but will Explorer be a problem? While I’m asking questions, is anyone using any voice recognition software successfully w OpenEMR? Thanks - Jen
jenjhall wrote on Wednesday, April 06, 2011:
Hi Mukoya, I didn’t see your response before I wrote my second remark. Would anyone else care to throw their opinion or experience into the mix?
mdsupport wrote on Wednesday, April 06, 2011:
All workstations in our practice have a dedicated OpenEMR window running through the Prism which is site specific FireFox. It’s light and fast. To our staff OpenEMR is no different than any other Windows application on their machine running in its own window.
mukoya wrote on Wednesday, April 06, 2011:
Din’t know about Prism. Just Installed it. Looks great. Only thing i would miss is the occasionally useful 'Back" on the right-click Menu.
jenjhall wrote on Wednesday, April 06, 2011:
I just now also installed Prism. I think it will be a good possible solution. Thanks. Anyone else who is interested, the download page is:
markleeds wrote on Thursday, April 07, 2011:
I used to always use Firefox because I thought of it as the official supported browser of OpenEMR. I am now using Chrome with no problem at all. I like that it loads quickly. If you use CAMOS, you cannot use “submit selection” which I use frequently. This is because of a different method of rendering which makes implementation of this feature almost impossible with IE. I don’t know if this has changed with recent versions.
jenjhall wrote on Thursday, April 07, 2011:
I noticed that in using Prism that the default behavior is to print the title, date, etc on the client’s receipt of payment. The problem is that one of these pieces of info is the URL of your OpenEMR installation. This happens to include my static IP which would give curious clients access to the opportunity to hack my system. To change this I had to place this code:
user_pref(“print.print_footerleft”, “”);
user_pref(“print.print_footerright”, “”);
user_pref(“print.print_headerleft”, “”);
user_pref(“print.print_headerright”, “”);
at the bottom of the preferences.js file in the prism directory tree. Then when I create icons for applications they leave these pieces of information out. Alternatively the code can be edited in the icon’s prefs.js file if you only want the change to apply to it. This then becomes safer than standard Foxfire where the URL may end up being left on as a part of the page setup.
cverk wrote on Sunday, April 10, 2011:
I am using the regular nonmedical version 9 of Dragon software for dictation, which works just fine in both 3.2 and 4.0. I did a fair amount of training using it before this with wordperfect for printing chart notes, but it works as well in openemr as in wordperfect… I have found that version 4.0 requires more server horsepower which I have upgraded to help stop a stalling behavior. But dictation software is pretty much dependent on your workstation hardware. (ie. have lots of ram). I am using 4 gb with a quad core processor in windows 7.
mdsupport wrote on Sunday, April 10, 2011:
Main reason for use of Firefox for us has been its plugins/add-ons. Over last couple of years these have provided real productivity boost. To give an example, we use a thing called customize-your-web for making changes specific to the user like filling up certain fields or changing the screen layout just because they do not like it. Like all software, version changes give new options and some headaches. For example, Prism support as an add-on to create shortcut from the browser itself went way with Firefox 4.0, the start up speed improved significantly - almost as fast as Chrome. More importantly, they put in App-Tab which is a permanently open set of Tabs when you start the browser. So we are looking at EMR being one of those tabs on all machines. They also sync the settings and bookmarks across different machines including smartphones.
This is not a plug for Firefox. But since we have used it for few years now, I thought of sharing our experience. Although there are (and will always be) faster browsers, so far Firefox seems to be a better choice for us when we look at the total time in getting a process done.
drbowen wrote on Sunday, April 10, 2011:
As much as possible we try to support all the browsers including IE. It is just hard to get all the css, jquery, ajax, to work in every browser. We recommend “Firefox” because that is what most of the developers use and consequently is the least troublesome. As we attract more developers that use IE the intermittent problems will like go away. If you use IE routinely and have problems we would like to have the feedback.
Chrome seems to be coming on strong and is very site independent. This should put pressure on Microsoft to improve IE.
Good to hear bout the experience with Dragon Naturally Speaking. How do deal with the medical words?
Sam Bowen, MD
http://oemr.org
cverk wrote on Monday, April 11, 2011:
I don’t know how neccessary this was, but I had about five years of dictation from my transciptionist, before she retired, in electronic format. Dragon 9 preferred has a learning mode that I set off on this large file of dictation. I then voice trained the words it came up with as unique. So I pretty much went completely to voice dictation about 2 years ago, producing unique soap notes for each patient visit which are more defensible as not being based on a template. I have learned over time to watch and correct as I go, because it does make some errors and has some problems with peoples names. So now I just dictate into the voice dictation field of oemr instead of printing and filing them. I am a little concerned that I can’t hand sign them like paper however.
aethelwulffe wrote on Saturday, April 16, 2011:
Dragon 10 medical has NO problems…and is far better than all previous versions.
Major issue with IE vs. Firefox: CAMOS!
Submit Selected Content does NOT work in IE. If you use IE and hit Submit All Content, you will change your template to the content of the current note, /lock/ or no.
-Art
aethelwulffe wrote on Saturday, April 16, 2011:
PS…
If you have openoffice and Firefox and all that, you have spellcheck in your browser…which means you have spellcheck in the EMR.
There prolly is an easy spellcheck to add to IE, but I dont’ know of it, and that is yet another POS add-on you have to configure or pay for somehow, vs just using Firefox.
BTW, all of my comments are based on IE and the standard stuff you get with an XP platform.
cverk wrote on Saturday, April 16, 2011:
I checked versions on Dragon and you are correct. I started with version 9 but was upgraded by the company to version 10 preferred, and it works just fine with openemr version 4 under windows with internet explorer.
cverk wrote on Friday, April 22, 2011:
More specific to this thread, Dragon works with both internet explorer and firefox browsers, but after using both, I think it actually works better under Firefox.