# Biling Project

**URL:** <https://community.open-emr.org/t/biling-project/5817>\
**Category:** OpenEMR Development\
**Created:** [December 9, 2005, 1:15am UTC](https://community.open-emr.org/t/biling-project/5817 "2005-12-09T01:15:33Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Post date:** [December 9, 2005, 1:15am UTC](https://community.open-emr.org/t/biling-project/5817/1 "2005-12-09T01:15:33Z")

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**[sunsetsystems](https://sourceforge.net/u/sunsetsystems/)** wrote on [Friday, December 09, 2005](https://sourceforge.net/p/openemr/discussion/202506/thread/577956c1/#81dd):

I just wanted to mention that Andres is working on some very cool stuff to solve all of our billing problems.&nbsp; :-)&nbsp; See:

[https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1375545&group\_id=60081&atid=493004](https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1375545&group_id=60081&atid=493004)

There’s room for more help, like coding a X12-to-1500 translation module.

– Rod  
[www.sunsetsystems.com](http://www.sunsetsystems.com)

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**Post date:** [December 9, 2005, 12:11pm UTC](https://community.open-emr.org/t/biling-project/5817/2 "2005-12-09T12:11:13Z")

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**[ajperezcrespo](https://sourceforge.net/u/ajperezcrespo/)** wrote on [Friday, December 09, 2005](https://sourceforge.net/p/openemr/discussion/202506/thread/577956c1/#81dd/8205):

How about importing x12 formatted files into OpenEMR?&nbsp; Most billing apps that I’ve seen create x12 files and store them permenantly prior to transmition.&nbsp; If this is possible it will simplify migrating.&nbsp; But considering that some variations may and will exist the import process should be based on true to the letter x12 formats.

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**Post date:** [December 9, 2005, 6:51pm UTC](https://community.open-emr.org/t/biling-project/5817/3 "2005-12-09T18:51:56Z")

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**[sunsetsystems](https://sourceforge.net/u/sunsetsystems/)** wrote on [Friday, December 09, 2005](https://sourceforge.net/p/openemr/discussion/202506/thread/577956c1/#81dd/ebb5):

I’m not sure I understand.&nbsp; Do you mean importing X12 claims?&nbsp; It seems to me OpenEMR would not be able to do much with them that is interesting.

– Rod  
[www.sunsetsystems.com](http://www.sunsetsystems.com)

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**Post date:** [December 10, 2005, 1:42am UTC](https://community.open-emr.org/t/biling-project/5817/4 "2005-12-10T01:42:29Z")

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**[ajperezcrespo](https://sourceforge.net/u/ajperezcrespo/)** wrote on [Saturday, December 10, 2005](https://sourceforge.net/p/openemr/discussion/202506/thread/577956c1/#81dd/3de8):

Medical billing&nbsp; system X12 files will have patient data (Name, address…etc) and encounter info, if we could import them re-entering all old patient data would not be required.  
Alfonso

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**Post date:** [December 13, 2005, 2:25am UTC](https://community.open-emr.org/t/biling-project/5817/5 "2005-12-13T02:25:26Z")

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**[sankar1234](https://sourceforge.net/u/sankar1234/)** wrote on [Tuesday, December 13, 2005](https://sourceforge.net/p/openemr/discussion/202506/thread/577956c1/#81dd/19fd):

Though we can import the demographics and current encounter, the previous encounters, PSFH, allergy, medications can’t be imported. But they have to be re-entered, Right?

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**Post date:** [December 13, 2005, 6:43pm UTC](https://community.open-emr.org/t/biling-project/5817/6 "2005-12-13T18:43:17Z")

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**[drbowen](https://sourceforge.net/u/drbowen/)** wrote on [Tuesday, December 13, 2005](https://sourceforge.net/p/openemr/discussion/202506/thread/577956c1/#81dd/f39b):

My son wrote me a couple of PERL scripts that imported all medications, allergies, surgeries, medical problems.&nbsp;

I depends on the complexity of the data that you are trying to import and how well it maps onto the current database table structure.

Sam Bowen

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**Post date:** [December 13, 2005, 6:48pm UTC](https://community.open-emr.org/t/biling-project/5817/7 "2005-12-13T18:48:16Z")

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**[drbowen](https://sourceforge.net/u/drbowen/)** wrote on [Tuesday, December 13, 2005](https://sourceforge.net/p/openemr/discussion/202506/thread/577956c1/#81dd/9aa6):

Ultimately this would help move toward a PHP-MySQL only practice management system?

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**Post date:** [December 13, 2005, 7:00pm UTC](https://community.open-emr.org/t/biling-project/5817/8 "2005-12-13T19:00:20Z")

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**[sunsetsystems](https://sourceforge.net/u/sunsetsystems/)** wrote on [Tuesday, December 13, 2005](https://sourceforge.net/p/openemr/discussion/202506/thread/577956c1/#81dd/9aa6/05fb):

Mainly it would make the billing process faster and more straightforward.&nbsp; I envision keeping the SQL-Ledger interfacing, and or course that’s a Perl app and uses PostgreSQL… however there’s nothing to prevent someone from coming up with another solution for A/R.

– Rod  
[www.sunsetsystems.com](http://www.sunsetsystems.com)

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**Post date:** [December 13, 2005, 7:16pm UTC](https://community.open-emr.org/t/biling-project/5817/9 "2005-12-13T19:16:19Z")

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**[sankar1234](https://sourceforge.net/u/sankar1234/)** wrote on [Tuesday, December 13, 2005](https://sourceforge.net/p/openemr/discussion/202506/thread/577956c1/#81dd/b7bc):

Bowen :

So for practices who have the billing files stored somewhere, we can effectively use them as Input to this perl or any program to populate the mySQL database.&nbsp; The problem of scanning old paper charts could be reduced in no time.&nbsp; Is this a valid claim with some guesstimate?

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**Post date:** [December 13, 2005, 9:30pm UTC](https://community.open-emr.org/t/biling-project/5817/10 "2005-12-13T21:30:10Z")

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**[drbowen](https://sourceforge.net/u/drbowen/)** wrote on [Tuesday, December 13, 2005](https://sourceforge.net/p/openemr/discussion/202506/thread/577956c1/#81dd/fa33):

SQL-Ledger is a nice accounting packacge.&nbsp; It is not and never will be a practice management system.

Practice Management Systems are not accounting systems.

Sam Bowen, MD
